sav3dcrew <(((><

Game name: 1bullet fail

*Edit STEAM_0:1:20225873

Date: July 24, 2009

Time: late around dinner time.

So I should say what happened from my "point of view." This happened a few days earlier when one of the s@v3d crew members told me If I was walling. we got in a discussion and he said somebody on the forums posted saying I'm a hacker. Well I downloaded the demo watched it and read some of the comments. I didn't really care as I thought this was a joke. Sooner or later hero-of-time commented on the demo taking notes I knew this was serious but still took no action to defend myself. I just went back to playing on the server as a regular. After a few rounds and a kill which I could obviously see a players shadow I was accused of hacking. Somebody told him he also saw the shadow from specing me. and sooner A was getting accused of walling by every awp shot which for me I could do in my sleep not to brag or anything but these shots which I was getting accused of weren't all that spectacular I've been playing my game since the start but ever since the demo my regular kills were getting called "he walls" and "hacker."

Since I've been playing on the server regularly trying beat Goombas score as my first intention I got to know some of the players. Since some of them thought that I was an actual hacker they decided to spec me which I was ok with since I had nothing to lose. A few rounds at office and Ru401 asked me to stop what I'm doing and gave me a warning. Another person told me to turn off the hacks.

I should say honestly I have never broken any of the S@v3dcrew's rules and never will. Everytime I connect those same rules pop up after reading them once it became known as just a friendly reminder. I will still not break any of the rules and that includes #4 the one with complete missions, no team flashing, and "no hacking."

Now I knew It got really bad when they got the admins to start thinking I was hacking. Ru401 confirmed I was hacking with demo's. I told him I didn't hack in those demos. Since I was on a roll with a good 4 kills per round and was told to stop what I was doing. I should say I never hacked once in the s@v3d crew's server and never will. I just decided to go to 1 kill per round seeing as their was no way to stop what was never started.

Next thing I knew I got the ban hammer. And I'm not sure who it really was at the time as there were atleast more than 3 admins I believe. So the next thing I did was go to the s@v3dcrews forum and appeal a ban. I've read the ban rules and if theres trouble silverbullet gives the final word.

After reading all that I think and believe I should get a second chance gaming on the s@v3dcrew server.

Please understand that I am trying to be objective and get to the bottom of this, not disrespectful or anything.

One thing I did notice is that when RU told you to stop what you were doing, you had around 44 kills and 8-10 deaths. After he told you to stop, you went to 51 kills and 23 deaths, clearly a drop in ratio which implies a removal of hacks.

I can understand how that could mislead people into thinking they were just toggled off. But for me I have never hacked. theres a different possible solution I do remember that getting that score I kept going 1 way in office mainly stairs as a T and just awping the ct's as they popped out. I probably did it too much that I died a couple of times. I know its not a reasonable excuse but I don't have demo of what went on.

Does anyone have a demo? (besides the one posted in the previous thread?)

I watched all my demo's and could find nothing conclusive....(Yes I recorded you on many occasions once the complaints started coming in)

Who banned you?

I don't know there were a couple admins on at the time. I wasn't recording myself but RU said there was gonna be a person watching me maybe he was demoing.

I have been in the server a few times when this all has transpired... i wont say much other than that it is very strange when there is a thread about a person on the forums cheating and then being in game 2 nights in a row and hearing 5-6 players call you out over the mic for cheating. bah, who knows.. we all suck anyway... what does anybody know really.. they all must be wrong..

He doesn't hack... i am amazed at this server sometimes and think accusations of hacking should be removed indefinetly from the forums. Once people see them the person is bombarded constantly in game. Also accusations of hacking should be in private in game or on steam.

I have watched him play on many occasions and he is legit. Anyone who has scrimmed ever will know this is the normal for good players out there.

I can easily state the reasons he is good:

1. Time played
2. Sound
3. Knowledge of what other players will do in situations from years of practice.
4. Knowledge of maps.
5. Shadows turned up to highest possible

Honestly i say unban him.

1 and 3 don't go well with his steam ID. 4 doesn't go well with the fact that he went like 10-1 and then said "this is my first time playing this map" (I'm talking about that nightfever one or whatever). 2 and 5 are unverifiable.

Well frankly, the steam ID argument is just something that means absolutely nothing to me. I don't care of someone has a new ID or not, if there is other evidence to go with the fact that he isn't a Noob, there is still NO evidence that one obtained it under shady circumstances. Yes, I'm sure there are banned players out there that have gotten new accounts, I'm also sure there is people out there, Like myself, who had this game and steam accounts many years ago and lost their cd key and had to buy a new one. NO I didn't keep playing all those years, but I at one time had a very low number.

In the event that someone has a new account because they got caught on their old one, so be it, the fact is, there are people in this very crew who have had previous lives of hacking and have turned away from it....so, enough of the Steam number junk, cuz its just that, JUNK...

How many of you would object to being profiled based on Race or nationality, yet do the same concept to others with this kind of BUNK....

enough already...(shakes head in frustration...LOL)

I have all my settings set to low except my shadow which is set to high* and my gamma at 2. As for sound I just use the creative fatal1ty headset which makes it easier for me to hear footsteps. And for the map de_nightfever which is new to me isn't the first map that I didn't know, s@v3d has tons of different maps I just follow the crowd and frag as usual. and from 1 and 3 the time that I have been playing I was devoting to training my aim and practicing non stop.

Also if that isn't good enough I have played occasionally on esea servers and believe me they have the #1 anti-hacking detection system to date.

I was suspect too at first. i watched him for quite some time and didnt see too much to go on. but then again, i sisnt see what RU saw. Just my 2 cents

Grumps right yall.....just chill and throw some more mud around its run anyways....wait and see what the final word... I will talk a little with a few others on this so sry that it is taking a while..but yes ingame junk does need to stop...even though im not in right now it sounds like you guys all need to take a chill and eat some hot dogs off the grill...and hopefully not be ill haha laterz

Haha...funny smirfy....your a poet and didnt' know it....(hehe)

On a side note, RU doesn't usually call hack unless there is something really strong tha he see's. And trust me, it is harder for me to let go of my dislike for hackers who ruin the game and not ban them then it is to just say ban them, but that wouldn't be right. I was a police officer for many years and I've seen over and over again accusations run wild because something becomes a common belief from mearly hearing the samething over and over again. Then, only to investigate the accusation and find it to be completely unfounded.

Listen folks, it is way to common that some cries hack because they gotta make themselves feel better when they die, than it is that someone is actually hacking....but if there
is one player who doesn't do that it's RU....

Let me throw out another thought tho, if you are a really, really Good player and you can't have to compassion to play nicely when people are getting frustrated, then I'm sorry, your a very selfish person. Because your whole goal is to pad your own score, make yourself feel good, or gain a reputation, but it surely isn't aimed at caring how others feel. If you find our server a place to play because its easy to come in and own everyone, then go somewhere else where you can play at your own level, or find something that challenges you on our server. Like a new weapon or something. I've heard it said many times that people like to come to our server and awp till they drop because we don't complain and call hack as much as a normal server (well usually)....Well sorry, that is a very selfish attitude also....take the hint and join in on the good will towards others attitude instead of taking advantage of it because having good will doens't mean being a push over...and sooner or later your welcome will run out....

Quick question. Last night i was playing along side him, and threw 2 smoke granades back to back at Office, so it was thick. We were in the same area as you spawn T looking at the big window. i couldn't see through it, yet he was able to get 2 kills through the smoke. In my many years of playing, this was a first to see. Has anyone else done such a thing like this before? Just a question, not an accustaion.

Yes I have seen and done this before when I took the game too serious.
Things to make this work really well:
1 Turn off game voices.
2 Turn up game sound.
3 Put on headphones.

Now aim threw a little door way or down a hall , when you see someone on your radar thats not on your team shoot that direction. This is harder with a awp , but let me tell you a super trick that a hockey player tought me. "You miss 100% of the shots you dont take." ( Wayne Gretzky )



Honustly I say we give him a verbal about the sketchy shots and just make it known that we wont put up with hackers on our server. All in all even if he was hacking I'm still trying to work out the unconditional forgiveness that I read so much about in this really great book.

well he is reading this post so he knows we are watching, I have been recording him consistantly (and others who have been questions).....so if he is hacking..it will only be a matter of time....

God Bless

I just got banned again. But this time I was just killing an admin too many times and I guess he got mad and banned me. Also said some lame catch phrase like "hey 1bullet ko I hope you know 1bullet fail..." ROFL >.<

does us no good if you don't include the time and admin that banned you..or at least the admins that were on at the time that you knew of......but your console should say ho banned you

Game name: 1bullet ko

Steam ID: 0:1254687

Date: July 28, 2009

Time: Around 5 pm or 7pm

All I know who was online was little pickle if he's an admin. And I did check my console right after but It doesn't ever say who or the length of ban.

are you still banned...I couldn't find you in the ban list...

Yeah just checked still am.

My bad STEAM_0:1:20225873 is mine. I was on a server typed status in console and got the wrong ID.

well I'm waiting on talking to lilpickle see if he know's who did the ban or if anyone has a demo...He is supposed to come and check the forums and if he does't after a few days, you will be unbanned...if he has a demo...we would need to look at it first...

God Bless

it was not little pickle or regular pickle in the server at the time the people who decided to ban you was king snore and destroyer along with me snore and destroyer made the call for banning you and i was just talking to snore and he said that he will take full responsibility for banning you and no one ever said "i hope u know 1bullet" that in any way never happened at that time during the ban talk to snore and destroyer about the ban Avi8tor,

Godbless

Actually come to think of it I do remember Snore being in the server at the time. Also somebody did say that right before I got banned so I don't know what your talking about.

like i said im taking full responsibility and i do believe you wall im sorry but that my opinion.

I'm gathering we don't have a demo? First off, it is not against the rules to ban someone for hacking without a demo, but it is allot harder to make it stick if there isn't one. We have been through this many times. Sometimes there is a good reason to ban someone and remove them from the server to keep the server playable and fun for everyone, but that said, try and get some sort of demo if you can. A demo guards against rage bans as well as gives the person banned a fair chance to prove his case. Even better tho, is it gives the banning admin a better chance of proving his case. Rage bans gets admin privileges removed if its a consistent problem. (Not that I think you did that, just putting that out for information and guidance for all)

Some have mentioned that because 4-5 have complained he was hacking that "they must all be wrong" if the ban doesn't stick. This kind of policy, if we used it, would eventually cause a relaxation in standards for banning someone and effect the server in a negative way. I've seen several people think someone is hacking and be right, but I've also seen several people thinking someone is hacking and be wrong. (demo's were provided in both cases)

So, for future references, if it becomes necessary to remove someone for hacking with no demo available, please make it a temp ban and try to get others to speck and concur with the charge of hacking. A perm ban can be done at a later date real easy if needed and is not likely to stick anyway.

We have allot of admins, and we don't' want getting banned such a risk that it becomes more of a problem then the hackers....If you have someone who is suspected, watch them for a while and record it.. All admins have an auto observe mode that can watch a player automatically upon death or even in spectate. Typing RECORD and a file name in console starts the recording process....for example...if I'm recording 1 bullet KO I would type RECORD 1bullet in console....then next time I record I might type RECORD 1bullet2 and so on.....(to make a new file name for the demo) Type STOP in console when you wanna stop recording...

After that, talk to someone, its easy to watch, email or post the demo for others to view....

I will unban you bullet, but don't be under the mistaken belief that you are proven innocent, rather, convince yourself that at the first possible chance I get a good demo that proves you to be hacking that I will ban you for good and there will not be a second chance. Frankly, if you do hack and continue hacking after this, I would not hesitate to make sure you never play on our server again.... (Yes, I will have you on auto spectate for a longgggg time).....

God Bless

thanks! But it says I'm still banned.

Clarification for some folks: Just specing someone is not a good way to prove someone doesn't hack. You can watch them and sometimes know that they do hack, but to catch good wallhackers and aimbotters, you really do have to take and watch a demo with r_drawothermodels 2 and sv_showimpacts 2 on. (sv_showimpacts will help you with aimbots, because it shows the point where a bullet impacts a player model.)

As for sound -- well, I'll be the judge of that, as I'm pretty sure I have the best sound setup here. He reacts to things he can't hear. However, a lot of that could just be good instinct or watching shadows. I've known players who rarely play CS but are amazing because their skills translate very well from other games. In fact, I participated in an ill-fated attempt to create a CAL team full of ex-UT players, and we probably got kicked out of the servers in about half the scrims we did for "hacking." (We were clean, mind you. I was on a LAN with two of the four others. :p) I *do* think he aimbots, though. (That said, I'd like to see a stats plugin to show what percentage of his shots hit where.)

(As for sound, I've got a $500 headphone/amp combo. :p)