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yay first thread!

in all seriousness, this has been irking me for a long time. I don't like the infinite money spectator bug or starting with $16000 every time. I realize it's for fun, but it is bad for practice and makes the good guns lose their prestige. managing your money effectively and gauging your skill with cheaper guns is a very underrated skill in the competitive cs world.

i think it should be removed.

That's the thing Awptimus. Not all of us are as concerned with the 'competitiveness'. This clan, first and foremost, is about spreading God's word, then giving our members a nice environment to play in, and THEN about competitive gaming in CAL and such.

There are a few people who are exceptional that play in the server, and would be the only people with anything besides a pistol if there wasn't a way for the rest of us to get money somehow.

Mainly, my point is this: not all of us are incredibly skilled, including myself. We just play for the fun of it, and it is not very fun if we just continually get owned by those who DO take the game seriously (to me, it's just a computer game, slightly higher than gift cards on my scale of importance).

Peace

Edit: Fixed spelling.

Good point, I love using the bug, but what will happen is ultimate frustraition when a pro comes in with an awp, and we are all left with m5's! If you like the money balancing stuff, buy sim city, or play more scrims. LOL. Whatever happens im nutral to.

Go to spectator. Then go back to your team.

Problem solved :B

Thats the bug that is being debated. If we change the start money to like 1000 then when you rejoin it will only make things worse! But either way i don't care. I like having the bug.

bad bad bad.

first for ppl who r not great with the realy expensive guns they wont get chance to learn to use em. like me im starting to learn to awp - and cant if i dont have money. so if u have awp and i have no skill w/ awp u have no challenge. so ina way it helps creat more challenge.

second if money is restricted then ppl will want awps restricted then auto snipers and shields cuz those things unbalance the game to those who have money. one team with awps one team with pistols and mp5 = bad game.

last if one team is pwnin then losing side is broke and thers no challenge. plus it will create team stacking cuz ppl like to see good stats and ranks and will want the money on the winning team.

the way it is keeps it light and fun. so i like it as is.

mayb u could just change it to like 3600 or something so u could buy m16 or ak first and then save up while killing..just a thought

Can we change the price of the Awp to 16k? Then if someone does do the 1st-round-awp thing thats ALL they can buy and we have a better shot at taking them out when they dont have armor or a deagle...

But I agree, I don't like the infinite money. I also really would prefer friendly fire be turned on, it makes the game way more interesting when you actually have to pay attention to who you're shooting, as opposed to so many people who just shoot anything that moves and worry about if it's a teammate or not later.

I'd also love it if we had a pistol round - I just hate getting awped on the very first round.

All very good points will need to look at that more closely. Good to have a variety of opinions.

I do think that if it is set how you recieve money like you would in scrim, only the guys that know strats and how to play would benefit from it. The players that just like to have fun and try differant weapons are going to get frustrated and leave to a differant server.

16000 is a lot to start off with but for players that have no skill its not a lot. Speacially if they die everytime all that money would be gone in 4 rounds. We are here for all type of players, it does get frustateing sometimes for people when a sniper is camping Spawn. But you know that sniper is camping there speacially if everyone is dieing that goes over to where the sniper is..

So practice more and be more stealth walk when needed. Dont peek a sniper let him come to you. Speacially if the sniper is the last guy and needs to plant bomb. That meens all you got to do is wait for him to come to you......
I like the Idea of makeing the AWP cost more I think half there funds would be a good price 8000. That way if they die they might not be able to buy it a second time and have to wait maybe another 3 times before they can buy an AWP again. Kind of controls peoples spending when it comes to high priced weapons.

hey the friendly fire idea is cool. mmaybe we could make like most time normal at first and have "friendly fire fridays" or something and if ppl liek it them make more days.

Yeah FF sounds fun cuz i want to turn Pishoo into a time bomb. LOL JK.

Anyway price of weapons won't matter as long as you use the spectator bug.

What i think needs to bi fixed is that if you start every round with 16000 then all the begginers will always have money. Otherwise everyone would use the bug and they wouldn't and they would get mad. Only people who have been around know how to use the "glitch" so it makes it unfair to the
"New People"

Right now it's at a point where its not fair because there are a lot of people that don't know how to use the bug. So thats what i would have to say. But again, its no biggy.

-.- this is a public server... not a scrim. people are there to have fun.. not rush with deagles against m4s aks and awps -.-... so yeah.. i think you should just make everyone have infinite money =o

I like this suggestion. everyone including noobs are capable with an m4/ak and it only takes them winning a round or getting a kill to afford an awp. it keeps the server from being the awpfest it usually is while still keeping relative balance among teams.

infinite money FTW

We should have our server like CS Gamer's de_dust2 server. Where at the beginning of each round the money is auto set to 25000. Yet I do not know how they did that... 0.o

I think both sides are good while having the bug to go to spec and back to your team is nice if you start doing really bad but sometimes we do need a little less starting money because it's more fair for everyone but on the other side if a pro comes in with an awp it's not like we cankick or ban someone for being good thats just unfair or when you start doing good and then the pro you were beating just does the bug lol both very equal points i still think it should be a little less mabie 10000 so they can't get a awp 4 rounds in a row.

How about anyone who buys the awp is slapped to 1 hp and anyone who buys a shotgun gets 100000 hp COUGH COUGH COUGH <3

heheheh sounds good to me, lets do it. *Looks back and around and runs muahahaha*

XD I actually like starting w/ 800 gold like in The Fish server... pistols are all good

Yeah, I have to agree with shadow, the 800 starting cash is pretty fun. And if everyone has 800 it will still be equal. They've never had complaints about low starting cash that I've heard, in fact, I think thats kind of the way it's supposed to be played. When one team wins, everyone gets more cash, not just the good players. So if anything, just balancing skillful players should make even teams. I think thats the real problem, not the cash. Also, I'd like to throw my vote in with FF on also. I never really liked how I could shoot my allies and it was like they weren't there. They ARE there, and therefore they should be able to be shot.... Accidentally of course

Lol Yay Im starting to really like surprise ^_~

I know it was said earlier that this is not competetive however I must point out that CAL and CPL both use 16k starting money. Now in both you start with 16k then from then on have to use money management. I propose instead of setting the start money lower to make it where that you would have to completely disconnect from server then reconnect to get money (if that is possible). If not I do like the fact that if you are taking a hit you spectate then buy a better weapon to turn the tides.
I must point out though that at least its fair. The way our server is set up is for good clean fun. What better way to have good clean fun then to at anytime to be able to purchase the gun you want, and still have a fair game being played.

Without the ability to go to spec and come back, I run out of cash really quickly. (meaning, i die a lot)

I'm not sure if its still this way , but CAL switched to 16,000 starting money to level the playing field. So a lot of servers are that way now. Personally I like the option of buying a gun if I want to even if its stacked like crazy. But I normally only buy a Deagle. Keeps it challenging.

I like it when I have the money to buy too.

yea time, cal went back to 800 cause of many complaints. I like 800 start cash but in a pub im just trying to chill and have fun so i like not having to plan my money. just my thought

Or we could all get better so we just kill and get money every round....


gg.

Some people have jobs and can't manage to get on all the time. Food on the table before headshots on the game.

Like timefreak, I usually just go with a deagle, and maybe a shottie as a secondary to warm up. When people start using awps and m4s, that's when I get "peeved" and start awping. hehehehe.